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[brightlyburns]

so. mythology, huh.

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[vogelfrei]

The formal classification is Mobile Armor, but the individual ones are named after angels. They're giant self-sufficient killing machines - a Mobile Armor can sustain and repair itself and exists only for one purpose: to kill.

[brightlyburns]

i still dont know what an angel is

but. wait. how the hell did this agnika guy and his buddies stop those??

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[vogelfrei]

Oh.

An angel in a mythological sense is a heavenly being that is subordinate to God and guards mankind.

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[brightlyburns]

which god. the way you capitalized that, ive only ever seen the hearthite goddess capitalized over here, as just the Goddess. does this God guys clergy also hate everyone elses gods

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[vogelfrei]

"God" from an ancient religion known as Christianity - who, yes, did hate other gods. Or rather, Christianity denied their existence.

It's not in widespread practice anymore, but its aesthetics survived.

[brightlyburns]

how many faces does he have? and, wait, are gods really low profile in your world? the hearthkeepers would never be able to get away with actually saying other gods arent real

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[vogelfrei]

'Low profile' is one way to put it - there is no proof of their existence one way or another. People have spent centuries arguing with each other about it.

[brightlyburns]

why would somebody worship something they dont even........ no, actually, i can buy that. people believe in plenty of stuff we cant prove already anyway, like "justice" and "other perspectives" and "good manners" and shit

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[vogelfrei]

You've grasped the concept perfectly.

But 'other perspectives'? You only believe what you can see for yourself, is that right?

[brightlyburns]

i guess. technically its not like i can even prove that other people are thinking, feeling beings, im just choosing to act on the assumption that they are

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[vogelfrei]

You have a point.

The Circle brings that kind of philosophical question to an extreme, doesn't it? We have no way of proving that the rest of the group are who they say they are, nor that they are even separate people to begin with. Everything we share about our homes on the basis of multiverse theory could be nothing but a fabrication, too.

It's as intriguing as it is unsettling.

[brightlyburns]

thats part of why i dont see the point in getting all mixed up with complicated strategy bullshit. if i have to question everything all the time, thats not any different from how things usually are anyway, so i dont see why i should have to change my approach or worry about garbage i cant control

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[vogelfrei]

The world could use more people who are as forward as you are.

[brightlyburns]

as what

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[vogelfrei]

Agnika Kaieru and his allies build an army of demons to stand against the angels.

Demons, in the mythological sense, as fallen angels. They are seen as impure and evil.

For the sake of this story, the demons are smaller fighting machines. A person can sit inside them and pilot them for combat. In order to unlock their full potential, however, one has to turn their own body part-machine. The machines saved mankind but took away part of their pilots' humanity in return.

[brightlyburns]

im pretty sure they tell stories about stuff like that in...... uhhh fuck, i dont know what im supposed to call it when i cant expect you to know shit about our maps. well whatever, its around the equator. in that area, theyve got stories about huge war machines from the ancient undocumented past. nothing like that anymore, though

how come getting partially mechanized is losing out on being fully human though? its not like they became partway another species, right?

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[vogelfrei]

The sanctity of the body doesn't mean too much to you, does it?

[brightlyburns]

"sanctity" my ass. humans are all made from mud, why should it be my business what prosthetics other people end up needing? its not like im even fully human in the first place

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[vogelfrei]

For the record, I am in full agreement.

To believe in the perfect untouched human body is nothing but privilege and hypocrisy.

[brightlyburns]

right? imagine having so much money that you dont need arms or legs. and even then, getting and maintaining prosthetics is still expensive as hell

its stupid

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[vogelfrei]

Are you speaking from personal experience?

[brightlyburns]

i still have all my limbs for now, which is nice, but im from a piss poor farming village. accidents happen, with the plow or the animals or whatever the fuck, and ive known lots of guys who wouldve traded everything they had left for a half decent prosthetic so they could keep working. if you cant work, in a place like that, and your family cant or wont pick up the slack, you die

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[vogelfrei]

I have known poverty of that caliber before.

It's a farce, isn't it? Those who can afford to keep themselves out of harm's way deciding that on what is 'sacred' as if the foundation of their power wasn't built on the backs of those who risk or even sacrifice their bodies.

[brightlyburns]

its fucking stupid is what it is. these rules only exist to keep the underclasses out of """polite""" social spaces where the real soft power decisions get made, anyway, and to promote arbitrary infighting between poor people that are disabled and poor people that (still) arent

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[vogelfrei]

I couldn't have said it better.

My rise through social classes was made possible by nothing but a stroke of (mis)fortune, in the end. I long to see a world in which it's not luck but effort that determines one's success in life.